cholayilbabu: hello sir.....r u busy
cholayilbabu is busy.
Venu: No. Yesterday I think there was a misunderstanding. I could have spoken both to you and Achu Maash simultaneously. Anyway, am happy you have called now.
cholayilbabu: yes sir...but i was a bit busy that,s why i quit
Venu: Are you having holiday today?
cholayilbabu: No sir I am on leave for 3 days....fever....
head set undo....
Venu: What is your programme today. Are you taking rest the whole day?
cholayilbabu: yes...now i am o.k....
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:25 PM on Saturday
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Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:26 PM on Saturday
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cholayilbabu: taking rest....
Venu: The election results in Maharashtra are a set back yet again to BJP. What about the 3 bye elections in Kerala. Will LDF will all?
cholayilbabu: knr &ekm UDF strong hold....cannot predict......political scenario is also not good for LDF.....so............
why so for bjp in M.P
sorry maharashtra
Venu: When I was about 15 yrs old, in 1970, Ranadive, the CITU leader, had come to Cherpalcherry. I was taking Hindi tution at that time and my Hindi master took me to the meeting.
cholayilbabu: good sir....
do you have head set sir......
Venu: I think the BJP is losing because it is not articulating the Hindu position very strongly.
I do not have a head set.
cholayilbabu: is'nt that the base of BJP
then how in gujarath sir
Venu: Maybe there is a confusion in the BJP. There are also many who think that we should not to seen as too Hindu a party because that will limit our consittuency.
In Gujarat BJP victory is largely due to the image of Modi.
cholayilbabu: i think the plus and the limits is that for BJP is hinduthwa ajenda....
can an individual alone can make that difference...i mean modi alone
i think basically gujarath is a suitable place 4 BJP
Venu: Actually the problem may be because there is a misunderstanding about Hindutva. The BJP, as you know, was formed by the RSS for the specific purpose of advocating the nationalistic point of view in politics. But somewhere along the line, the Hindutva philosophy of the BJP has come to be seen as just support to only the Hindu community.
No party can depend on its growth on just one individual.
cholayilbabu: yes sir thats what i said....see in only 3 states cpm has the base...
but there should be one or a group to lead in front.......
Venu: CPM is an independent and individual political party. However the history of the BJP is that it has a unique link with the RSS. What is happening in the BJP now, I think, is that many are questioning the link with RSS.
cholayilbabu: how can BJP exist without RSS...who is supplying bread and butter for BJP
Venu: For a long time it was one party rule in India. Then it became fronts. Now, with the Congress scoring victories, it may revert to being a sinle party government in the next general elections.
Yes. I think the BJP-RSS link is still strong and deep in the RSS and it cannot be broken and people like me do not want it to be broken but strengthened.
cholayilbabu: yes sir that will happen....single party will come to power...but sir although i beleive in communist ideology i think it better when we think about tamil nadu U.P,bihar such states ...parties....this is my personal opinion....
but its pity when there is no opposition....
Sent at 12:49 PM on Saturday
Venu: Prakash Karat is a person who would make a good PM of India. Earlier, Jyoti Basu had an opportunity. But the party is too disciplined to allow individuals to become bigger than the party. In that way, I admire the CPM. The discipline and organisation of the CPM can only be compared to that of the RSS, which is also disciplined.
cholayilbabu: then how sir..vasundare raj sindya....jaswant singh..etc(i think he has no much connection with RSS)acting like this....
in keral V.S v/s pinarayi is a matter of that.....
Venu: I think Vasundare Raje should have been sacked out earlier because of her indiscpline. The BJP had no choice but to send out Jaswant Singh because he was praising the arch-villian of partition. In the RSS there is not sympathy for any anti-national sentiments.
Are you with Pinarayi Vijayan or Achuthannandan?
cholayilbabu: just aminute sir
Sent at 12:57 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: that question is sad sir...with pinarayi or V.s..as an individual iam with V.S but i cannot admit V>S..the reason is same as Vasundare Raje
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 1:02 PM on Saturday
Venu: I understand. The RSS has some respect for VS. But I think it hates Pinarayi. However, I admire Pinarayi as a speaker. He is very clear in what he wants to say.
cholayilbabu is busy.
Venu: No. Yesterday I think there was a misunderstanding. I could have spoken both to you and Achu Maash simultaneously. Anyway, am happy you have called now.
cholayilbabu: yes sir...but i was a bit busy that,s why i quit
Venu: Are you having holiday today?
cholayilbabu: No sir I am on leave for 3 days....fever....
head set undo....
Venu: What is your programme today. Are you taking rest the whole day?
cholayilbabu: yes...now i am o.k....
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:25 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:27 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: taking rest....
Venu: The election results in Maharashtra are a set back yet again to BJP. What about the 3 bye elections in Kerala. Will LDF will all?
cholayilbabu: knr &ekm UDF strong hold....cannot predict......political scenario is also not good for LDF.....so............
why so for bjp in M.P
sorry maharashtra
Venu: When I was about 15 yrs old, in 1970, Ranadive, the CITU leader, had come to Cherpalcherry. I was taking Hindi tution at that time and my Hindi master took me to the meeting.
cholayilbabu: good sir....
do you have head set sir......
Venu: I think the BJP is losing because it is not articulating the Hindu position very strongly.
I do not have a head set.
cholayilbabu: is'nt that the base of BJP
then how in gujarath sir
Venu: Maybe there is a confusion in the BJP. There are also many who think that we should not to seen as too Hindu a party because that will limit our consittuency.
In Gujarat BJP victory is largely due to the image of Modi.
cholayilbabu: i think the plus and the limits is that for BJP is hinduthwa ajenda....
can an individual alone can make that difference...i mean modi alone
i think basically gujarath is a suitable place 4 BJP
Venu: Actually the problem may be because there is a misunderstanding about Hindutva. The BJP, as you know, was formed by the RSS for the specific purpose of advocating the nationalistic point of view in politics. But somewhere along the line, the Hindutva philosophy of the BJP has come to be seen as just support to only the Hindu community.
No party can depend on its growth on just one individual.
cholayilbabu: yes sir thats what i said....see in only 3 states cpm has the base...
but there should be one or a group to lead in front.......
Venu: CPM is an independent and individual political party. However the history of the BJP is that it has a unique link with the RSS. What is happening in the BJP now, I think, is that many are questioning the link with RSS.
cholayilbabu: how can BJP exist without RSS...who is supplying bread and butter for BJP
Venu: For a long time it was one party rule in India. Then it became fronts. Now, with the Congress scoring victories, it may revert to being a sinle party government in the next general elections.
Yes. I think the BJP-RSS link is still strong and deep in the RSS and it cannot be broken and people like me do not want it to be broken but strengthened.
cholayilbabu: yes sir that will happen....single party will come to power...but sir although i beleive in communist ideology i think it better when we think about tamil nadu U.P,bihar such states ...parties....this is my personal opinion....
but its pity when there is no opposition....
Sent at 12:49 PM on Saturday
Venu: Prakash Karat is a person who would make a good PM of India. Earlier, Jyoti Basu had an opportunity. But the party is too disciplined to allow individuals to become bigger than the party. In that way, I admire the CPM. The discipline and organisation of the CPM can only be compared to that of the RSS, which is also disciplined.
cholayilbabu: then how sir..vasundare raj sindya....jaswant singh..etc(i think he has no much connection with RSS)acting like this....
in keral V.S v/s pinarayi is a matter of that.....
Venu: I think Vasundare Raje should have been sacked out earlier because of her indiscpline. The BJP had no choice but to send out Jaswant Singh because he was praising the arch-villian of partition. In the RSS there is not sympathy for any anti-national sentiments.
Are you with Pinarayi Vijayan or Achuthannandan?
cholayilbabu: just aminute sir
Sent at 12:57 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: that question is sad sir...with pinarayi or V.s..as an individual iam with V.S but i cannot admit V>S..the reason is same as Vasundare Raje
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 1:02 PM on Saturday
Venu: I understand. The RSS has some respect for VS. But I think it hates Pinarayi. However, I admire Pinarayi as a speaker. He is very clear in what he wants to say.
cholayilbabu: c.u sir just a minute meals is ready..mother waiting.....
Venu: Bye bye for now.
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cholayilbabu: hello sir.....r u busy
cholayilbabu is busy.
Venu: No. Yesterday I think there was a misunderstanding. I could have spoken both to you and Achu Maash simultaneously. Anyway, am happy you have called now.
cholayilbabu: yes sir...but i was a bit busy that,s why i quit
Venu: Are you having holiday today?
cholayilbabu: No sir I am on leave for 3 days....fever....
head set undo....
Venu: What is your programme today. Are you taking rest the whole day?
cholayilbabu: yes...now i am o.k....
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:25 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 12:26 PM on Saturday
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 12:27 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: taking rest....
Venu: The election results in Maharashtra are a set back yet again to BJP. What about the 3 bye elections in Kerala. Will LDF will all?
cholayilbabu: knr &ekm UDF strong hold....cannot predict......political scenario is also not good for LDF.....so............
why so for bjp in M.P
sorry maharashtra
Venu: When I was about 15 yrs old, in 1970, Ranadive, the CITU leader, had come to Cherpalcherry. I was taking Hindi tution at that time and my Hindi master took me to the meeting.
cholayilbabu: good sir....
do you have head set sir......
Venu: I think the BJP is losing because it is not articulating the Hindu position very strongly.
I do not have a head set.
cholayilbabu: is'nt that the base of BJP
then how in gujarath sir
Venu: Maybe there is a confusion in the BJP. There are also many who think that we should not to seen as too Hindu a party because that will limit our consittuency.
In Gujarat BJP victory is largely due to the image of Modi.
cholayilbabu: i think the plus and the limits is that for BJP is hinduthwa ajenda....
can an individual alone can make that difference...i mean modi alone
i think basically gujarath is a suitable place 4 BJP
Venu: Actually the problem may be because there is a misunderstanding about Hindutva. The BJP, as you know, was formed by the RSS for the specific purpose of advocating the nationalistic point of view in politics. But somewhere along the line, the Hindutva philosophy of the BJP has come to be seen as just support to only the Hindu community.
No party can depend on its growth on just one individual.
cholayilbabu: yes sir thats what i said....see in only 3 states cpm has the base...
but there should be one or a group to lead in front.......
Venu: CPM is an independent and individual political party. However the history of the BJP is that it has a unique link with the RSS. What is happening in the BJP now, I think, is that many are questioning the link with RSS.
cholayilbabu: how can BJP exist without RSS...who is supplying bread and butter for BJP
Venu: For a long time it was one party rule in India. Then it became fronts. Now, with the Congress scoring victories, it may revert to being a sinle party government in the next general elections.
Yes. I think the BJP-RSS link is still strong and deep in the RSS and it cannot be broken and people like me do not want it to be broken but strengthened.
cholayilbabu: yes sir that will happen....single party will come to power...but sir although i beleive in communist ideology i think it better when we think about tamil nadu U.P,bihar such states ...parties....this is my personal opinion....
but its pity when there is no opposition....
Sent at 12:49 PM on Saturday
Venu: Prakash Karat is a person who would make a good PM of India. Earlier, Jyoti Basu had an opportunity. But the party is too disciplined to allow individuals to become bigger than the party. In that way, I admire the CPM. The discipline and organisation of the CPM can only be compared to that of the RSS, which is also disciplined.
cholayilbabu: then how sir..vasundare raj sindya....jaswant singh..etc(i think he has no much connection with RSS)acting like this....
in keral V.S v/s pinarayi is a matter of that.....
Venu: I think Vasundare Raje should have been sacked out earlier because of her indiscpline. The BJP had no choice but to send out Jaswant Singh because he was praising the arch-villian of partition. In the RSS there is not sympathy for any anti-national sentiments.
Are you with Pinarayi Vijayan or Achuthannandan?
cholayilbabu: just aminute sir
Sent at 12:57 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: that question is sad sir...with pinarayi or V.s..as an individual iam with V.S but i cannot admit V>S..the reason is same as Vasundare Raje
Incoming call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com at 1:02 PM on Saturday
Venu: I understand. The RSS has some respect for VS. But I think it hates Pinarayi. However, I admire Pinarayi as a speaker. He is very clear in what he wants to say.
Call from cholayilbabu@gmail.com missed at 1:02 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: c.u sir just a minute meals is ready..mother waiting.....
Venu: Bye bye for now.
Sent at 1:05 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: yes sir i am back...r u busy.....
at office??????
Sent at 1:23 PM on Saturday
Venu: Hello there. Had gone for lunch. Our office closes at 2pm on Saturdays. But I stay in the office.
Sent at 2:06 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: do you bring lunch...and about your family sir....
Venu: As I stay in the office, I eat from the hotels all the time. I am staying in the office because I health is not well and travelling makes it worse. Therefore I go home only sometimes. But when I go, I stay there for a week or two. My wife and two children are staying in Airoli, Navi Mumbai.
cholayilbabu: about your 2 children....
Venu: They are both studying law. My son is in the final year and my daughter has two more years to go. What about your children?
cholayilbabu: my elder one +1 younger 5th both boys wife teacher at mundakkottukurssi
Venu: In which school are you teaching? I think you may have told me before. But I have forgotten.
cholayilbabu: I am now under deputation in an edn project SSA
Venu: Where have you been deputed to? Was SSA originally an BJP government project?
cholayilbabu: It is an world bank aid project...begun under BJP Govt...continuation of DPEP
at shornur
Venu: Why did you come to Mumbai recently?
cholayilbabu: my brother in law is getting married with a mumbai settled family girl..engagement was on 12th oct
Venu: Was it held in Mumbai? Is the marriage also going to be held in Mumbai?
cholayilbabu: Emgagement held at mumbai...marriage at Guruvayoor
Sent at 2:34 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: oru head set vangunnatha nallath...sir...
Venu: Great. As I told you before, I have since long not gone for any marriages, celebrated any festivals, even birthdays of my children etc. Everybody is convinced that you cannot live without money and you should strive to live only in the glamour of money. I am really against the money culture.
As this is office computer, they do not require head set and therefore have not bought it.
Sent at 2:38 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: money culture is increasing in our society..and the glamourus life....even my 16 year old boy wants a mobile having sound effects and camera
Venu: Yes. But this vice can be overcome only if the individual is spiritual. This science and art of spirituality is the real teaching of Hinduism.
Sent at 2:43 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: there we have different opinion....we can see so many overcoming this although they are not spiritual....can hinduism alone can teachspirituality sir...and i think the point spirituality means is it mere GOD???
Sent at 2:46 PM on Saturday
Venu: I think there are are many communists also who are spiritual. My Guru is a communist (he was a Naxlite). By spiritualiy I mean the non-dependence on any thing for phycholoical reasons. Spiritualism need not have anything to do with God. I do not believe in God in the way the Muslims and Christians. For them God is the Creator. I do not believe there is a creator. For me God is another word for existence.
Sent at 2:50 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: I agree with that definition u gave for God...now am studying astronomy..sir....being this is astronomy year...really that study ....about the universe...is astonishing me....todaydaily says our scientists have discovered a new star which is 1020 crore light years away from earth...then how can we say God alone( Materialised one)can control such a big universe....
Sent at 2:56 PM on Saturday
Venu: If there is a power controlling the universe, that power has to be within the universe and not seperate from the universe. In fact there is only one power in the universe and we may understand it best if we understand the power which is keeping us alive.
cholayilbabu: i didnt understand sir....an explanation....
I think u r free and not busy....
Sent at 3:01 PM on Saturday
Venu: The power that is keeping us alive is of course life itself. It is our essense and the essense of all existence. It is the Sat. That is why when somebody dies, we say in Malayalam, "Ayaal Chathu poyi". That mean his Jeevan has gone. Therefore Sat is life or Jeevan.
cholayilbabu: o.k sir...but nowadays the meaning of 'spiritual'is not treated like this
Venu: You have to study and understand the art and science of spirituality and practice it yourself to get the results. You cannot get any results by trying to judge others. For example, Mata Amritayanandamayi is a spiritual giant. But if you do not understand what spirituality is all about, you may judge her by her Mercedez Benz cars and conclude that she is also after money.
Sent at 3:07 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: Sir now i have a doubt when u quoted Amma.u said early we can over come all the thirsts(money...etc's)by being spiritual...as u said Amma having and using so many facilities...How can we say she is spiritual....
Sent at 3:11 PM on Saturday
Venu: That is a good point. Actually a person like Amma is not dependent on anything for her psychological well being. All these material things that surround her are because all the people who throng to her are in the begining material people. So when they feel comfortable in the presence of Amma, they will to show gratitude to Amma and they offer all sorts of material facilities. Amma accepts to for the use of the organisation. Later, after going deeper into spirituality, they become her disciples and they no longer offer money but dedicate themselves to her. Finally, when they have attained to a great level of spirituality, they become free even from any dedication to anyone. They themselves would become a light to others.
Sent at 3:15 PM on Saturday
cholayilbabu: o.k sir...its interesting for such a debate.....and we shall meet again.....
c.u.sir
Venu: Good bye for now. It was nice talking to you, Maash.
cholayilbabu: thank you...sir.....
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